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America's problems will never be resolved without 2 essential things taking place. 1st: We all need to love God and humbly seek His intervention. 2nd: We all need to love one another and show it. Without both working in us and for us, all else will fail.
Right on! you will find this is the heart of the problem and it begins with the voter being lied to and misled and wont check facts and believe what there told by the candidate and main stream news. Anytime you get a good candidate the mainstream news smears them and props up the manchurian candidate with money and exposure backed by the elite. This is why we never get representation and your government uses the divide and conquer tactics. "united we stand divided we fall" this is the only way American freedom can be imploded from the inside and the elite see this and know this and this is what they use as a tool to usurp power from the people to a small elite few. When you willfully step away and elect people to public office that have a history of lying and side step the founders and our rights is it any wonder were in the shape we are in? This country is no longer recognizable because of this. When people refer to our founding documents as just pieces of paper then thats just what they are but when you realize have power and they live and breathe and have meaning you live them and they can't be taken away and they are no longer a piece of paper.
God help us here – we are all so angry that we overlook turning back to You
Please intercede some of us are going to explode with grief!!!!!!
Where is the Divine Intercession and especially justice
please help us Lord!
In Your precious Son Jesus' Name
Amen
Can you believe that the Elites have actually pulled this off!!!!!!!! Looks like the Dems fell Hook, Line…… but we all get to suffer….don't get me wrong…Republicans are elite jerks too, and many obviously want One World, but they still struggle about turning the US over to the One-worlders(little struggle). Boy these people have been busy, busy thinking up ways to steal all of the money us slaves have accumulated here and in Europe. WAKE UP AMERICA!!! We have big trouble, big scams, big fraud, big waste, Way to many entitlements. The Unions are the mafia reincarnate.(bankers and others require sep. comment) Mommy are we going to die? well are the chinese gonna make us build dams?
thank you Jane for telling it like it is, this is the story that so many Americans are realizing, finally, will there be enough time and ammo to fix it,
we need to clarify the US IS a Christian Nation as the pilgrims came here for that reason,
the un-Christan can leave and start their own country, and KICK OUT every darn muslim, nice and sweet ones too..
Jane: http://www.republicoftheunitedstates.org
Obama has shown overwhelming proof that he was born in Hawaii. First, he showed the official birth certificate of Hawaii, the Certification of Live Birth. It is the official birth certificate. In fact, it is the only birth certificate–or birth document of any kind–that Hawaii has issued since 2001. Birthers are calling for the original birth certificate. But Hawaii has not sent out copies of that since 2001. It sent the Certification of Live Birth to Obama because that it what it sends to everyone. Second, the officials in Hawaii (who were members of the Republican governor's administration) and the Republican governor of Hawaii have confirmed the facts on Obama's birth certificate, that he was born in Hawaii in 1961.
Guess Yahoo pulled this down before I got there. No video
Try again, I just watched it and it was funny!
if is proved that this man is a fraud – a fake president, than the last 2 years are never happened ! and he will be in jail – so why he is hiding his college transcripts ! ( no one from his classes at Columbia remember Obama) and his cetificate – his true identity…….because of the above
Why is he "hiding his transcripts" Answer; Because no president has ever shown transcripts and he does not have to show them. If in the next election his Republican opponent shows her or his transcripts, then Obama would do so too.
Re Columbia: http://www.wikicu.com/Barack_Obama
And this
http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct_archive/jan05…
And this:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2008-05-15-…
And this
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/reco…
And this:
http://www.politico.com/static/PPM116_obamaessay….
And this:
http://www.college.columbia.edu/news/barack-obama…
How come he can ask for everybody else’s long form birth certificate but he can’t provide his own,because he was born in KENYA.so why don’t all you useless democrats get out of office .THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE COUNTRY SO GET USE TO IT YOU GOT IT YOU BUNCH OF PHONIES
He doesn't ask for everyone else's long-form birth certificate, and he does not show his own long-form birth certificate because Hawaii did not send it to him. Hawaii only sends out the new short-form birth certificate, which is one that Obama posted.
Obama was not born in Kenya. He was born in Hawaii. Obama’s Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. She said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was born in Hawaii, where his father was studying, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii.
The video was real funny.
There is no use asking for Obama's birth certificate when most Democrats do not honor the Constitution. As Ms. Pelosi would say, "Are you serious."
he can't show the real thing becouse there would be a lot of dems going to jail for lying. they back him up even being illegal. there really are alot of fools in washington.
Those Washington "fools" are better known as Marxist TRAITORS to the intelligentsia among us!
Obama has already shown the REAL, official birth certificate of Hawaii, which is ,known as the Certification of Live Birth. Thousands of people use it every year, and it is the only birth certificate that Hawaii has issued since 2001. Hawaii no longer sends out copies of the original long-form birth certificate to anyone, even to people who were born before 2001.
The Wall Street Journal said:
“The birthers have also misrepresented the law in the claims they have made about Obama’s birth certificate. In truth, Obama has proved that he is a native of Hawaii, and this proof would hold up in any legal or administrative proceeding.
In order to explain the birthers’ deception on this point, it is necessary to delve into the arcana of Hawaiian vital records. The document that Obama has released, which carries the title “certification of live birth,” confirms that the president was born in Honolulu. It is a legal birth certificate, and, as the Honolulu Star-Bulletin notes, it is the only kind of birth certificate the state of Hawaii issues….
Further, if Congress were to pass the so-called birther bill, Obama would be able to comply easily. The bill would require presidential campaigns to submit “a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate” to the Federal Election Commission. The certificate Obama has released publicly would meet this requirement.”
Hey Ellen, and you believe this WHY??? Since when has the mainstream Media EVER BEEN TRUTHFUL with us paeons??? Haven’t you woken up yet or are you still so Or is you belief in HIM just because you ar stupid??
The Wall Street Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch, a conservative, and in any case the Wall Street Journal would not lie about the certification of live birth being the official birth certificate of Hawaii. This is just one of hundreds of sources. Thousands of people use the certification of live birth every year to get drivers licenses and thousands more to get US passports. AND, there is the repeated confirmations of the officials in Hawaii that the facts on Obama's birth certificate are accurate.
The abstract copy of Obama’s birth certificate is not worth the paper it is written on. When I was a Navy Recruiter, we don’t even accept this document for enlistment!!!
The Navy and the Army and the Marines all accept Hawaii's Certification of Live Birth as proof of birth in Hawaii and have ever since it became the official birth certificate of Hawaii in 2001.
You must have drunk up ALL the koolaide! A certificate of live birth is NOT a birth certificate. It merely shows there was a LIVE birth. I suggest that you go and get any of those things you said were given with just a certificate of live birth and see how far it gets you. the media LIES!
With them, you believe NOTHING you hear and only half of what you see because that is the only way you will get the truth from the media. Oh yeah, I believe that Bush’s school records were made public as well as good ole al gore’s. If you have NOTHING to hide…WHY spend millions of dollars to hide it? Wake up and smell the coffee! Get off the koolaide before you drown in it!
In Hawaii, the document known as the Certification of Live Birth, IS a birth certificate. In fact, it is the only birth certificate that the state of Hawaii has issued since 2001. In fact, it is the only birth certificate that Hawaii has sent out since 2001. Hawaii no longer sends out copies of the original birth certificate, even to people born before 2001.
No president has ever show his school transcripts (Bush's was leaked by Yale). Gore did not show his transcript, nor did McCain.
You’re one of the reasons Obama got elected!
There are 69 million reasons Obama got elected.
how many of those 69million votes were fraudulent??/
What are you some kind of communist?? “Muhammed” Hussien Barrack Obama was born in Kenya africa!!!!
The National Review said: “The theory that Obama was born in Kenya, that he was smuggled into the U.S., and that his parents somehow hoodwinked Hawaiian authorities into falsely certifying his birth in Oahu, is crazy stuff.”
Obama’s Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. She said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was born in Hawaii, where his father was studying, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii.
IF a person were born in Kenya, she or he would need a US travel document to get to the USA. That would be either a US visa on a foreign passport or the change to his mother's US passport to include him. One or the other would have had to have been applied for at a US Consulate in Kenya and granted before the child would be allowed to enter the USA.
If such a document existed, it would be easy to find because the records of the application for the visa or for the change to the mother's passport would still be in the files of the US State Department, filed under applications for visas and applications for changes to passports in Kenya in 1961. The Republicans were in charge of the US State Department until January 2009. No such document has been found. No such document exists.
Obama was not born in Kenya. He was born in Hawaii, as his official birth certificate from Hawaii shows, and the facts on it were repeatedly confirmed by the officials in Hawaii.
Barrack Obama,will go to jail very long times rest of his life.
None of the Federal or Military Courts (including the U.S. Supreme Court) will make him produce any documentation as to his eligibility. WHY? Now, wouldn't you love to know what was discussed when Obama, as President-elect (before being sworn in) held a secret meeting with the Supreme Court Justices?
And don't forget, the Military Judge that will be hearing the Lt. Col. Lakin Court Martial trial has refused to allow Lakin's defense to require Obama to produce All of his records to prove eligibility. Do you remember her reason? She stated; "It could prove embarrassing to the President."
So I guess it is more important to save Obama any embarrassment then to uphold the Constitution of the United States.
I absolutely agree with you Rev. and I've been praying fervently for our good Lt. Col. Lakin above all else.
Furthermore, how much more embarrassed could O possibly get, beyond what he should be already? He needs to produce!
Why someone, who hates America as much as O does, would want to run for our highest office continues to stretch my imagination.
The reason is that Obama's eligibility is irrelevant to the issue of whether Lakin disobeyed an order. The order "Go to Afghanistan!" is a perfectly legal order because the Afghanistan War is a legal war, approved by Congress during the Bush Administration. It was given to Lakin by a superior officer, a full colonel or a general, and not by Obama. Therefore Obama's eligibility has nothing to do with the case.
Imagine if during WWII an order were given: "Get in the boat, soldier. We are going to invade in Normandy.' And, the officer got back this reply: "I won't, sir. FDR has not proven his eligibility to be president."
The Nuremberg Trials and Courts Martial of Lt. Calley prove your entire post is bullshit!
An illegal order has to violate the laws of war. The order "Go to Afghanistan" does not violate the laws of war anymore than "Private, mop the floor" would. Neither order relates to who is president when the order was given. Neither order would become illegal even if the president were not eligible.
Lt. Col. Lakin's ENTIRE CASE is BASED on Obummer's ELIGIBILITY! You are siding with a liberal-minded "hand-picked" TRAITOR military judge who is SIDETRACKING the case to focus on ORDERS instead of the REASON Lt. Col. Lakin refused to obey them! He is being RAILROADED by Marxists and their sympathizers….including ignorant liberal-minded people like yourself! YOU are contributing to the support of those that are destroying YOUR country from beneath you….and don't even have the common intelligence to know it! Unless you are among the "Elite" YOU will go down with the rest of us! WAKE UP! "LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER"!!!
That is the law, the eligibility of the president is irrelevant to whether the order is legal or illegal. If you don't like it, change the law.
Ellen, dear, the problem is NOT with the LAW but with the "judges" that interpret and apply the law in their courts!
They all give the same answer because it is the law. If you don't like it, change the law.
Money & Power!!! Duh! Obama works for Soros! He’s on the take!
Get it??? Oh, God!!
I know about Soros. He's a real good conniver.
Does anybody ever get the feeling that there are at least three world powers (public/private) that are at battle over who or which group will be running the world government; while the rest of us are just dust underfoot? If this is so, I sure hope they're having a good time at our expense. All our banter is probably entertaining for them. Probably getting off on the panic they're stirring up.
It all makes me sick to my stomach.
This is a direct violation of LTC Lakin's 6th Amendment right under the "compulsory process" clause, but the, why let a little thing like the Constitution stand in the way of "the one"?? Impeachment Now!!!
I’m with you, let’s get his Halfrican butt out of the White House. What a fool he has made of true Americans.
The quote on Fukino (Department of Health Director Hawaii) on seeing Obama’s birth certificate is “Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures,”
This is true. What is left out is that a child born to a Hawaiian resident outside Hawaii in the early sixties, may have the birth registered anytime during the child’s first year of age. Meaning that the child did not need to be born in Hawaii to get a Certification of Live Birth from Hawaii. It wouldn’t matter except in the case of a United States President. He, in fact, did meet Hawaii’s requirements, although he was born in Kenya. The full Kenyan Birth Certificate can be found on the web as well as his grandmother’s testimony she was present at his birth and the Ambassador from Kenya has also confirmed the same.
The "Kenyan birth certificate" is a proven forgery. Obama’s Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. She said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was born in Hawaii, where his father was studying, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii.
IF a person were born in Kenya, she or he would need a US travel document to get to the USA. That would be either a US visa on a foreign passport or the change to his mother's US passport to include him. One or the other would have had to have been applied for at a US Consulate in Kenya and granted before the child would be allowed to enter the USA.
If such a document existed, it would be easy to find because the records of the application for the visa or for the change to the mother's passport would still be in the files of the US State Department, filed under applications for visas and applications for changes to passports in Kenya in 1961. The Republicans were in charge of the US State Department until January 2009. No such document has been found. No such document exists.
Obama was not born in Kenya. He was born in Hawaii, as his official birth certificate from Hawaii shows, and the facts on it were repeatedly confirmed by the officials in Hawaii.
Moreover, Hawaiian birth documents are not allowed to lie as to the place of birth. Yes, currently (NOT in 1961) Hawaiian birth certificates can be issued to the children of residents of Hawaii when their child is born outside of Hawaii. But, as the document cannot lie, it would have to list the actual place of birth. It would read like this: "Hawaii certification of birth, Place of Birth: Newark, NJ (or wherever)." Obama's official birth certificate clearly says that he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, and the two officials and the governor of Hawaii have confirmed that fact.
Soooo, what happened to the original claim that Obama, having been born in Kenya ( a foreign country) to an underage American mother could not , confer American citizenship to Obama …?
The Kenyan myth is a particularly stupid birther creation. Have you even considered the ENORMOUS expense of such a trip in 1961? It would have cost tens of thousands of dollars in 2010 dollars, and these were two poor students.
Have you considered the enormous risk that a pregnant woman would take in making such a trip (and the scenario only works if she went to Kenya late in pregnancy). In those days US airlines often refused to carry women late in pregnancy. And then, IF she had gone to Kenya and given birth there, she would have had to (1) lie about the trip; (2) somehow smuggle Obama from Kenya to the USA without a US travel document.
IF a person were born in Kenya, she or he would need a US travel document to get to the USA. That would be either a US visa on a foreign passport or the change to his mother's US passport to include him. One or the other would have had to have been applied for at a US Consulate in Kenya and granted before the child would be allowed to enter the USA.
If such a document existed, it would be easy to find because the records of the application for the visa or for the change to the mother's passport would still be in the files of the US State Department, filed under applications for visas and applications for changes to passports in Kenya in 1961. The Republicans were in charge of the US State Department until January 2009. No such document has been found. No such document exists.
Obama was not born in Kenya. He was born in Hawaii, as his official birth certificate from Hawaii shows, and the facts on it were repeatedly confirmed by the officials in Hawaii. Obama has already posted a copy of the official birth certificate, the Certification of Live Birth, which is the only birth document that Hawaii has been sending out since 2001. Hawaii no longer sends out copies of the original birth certificate, only of the official birth certificate: The Certification of Live Birth.
Obama’s Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. She said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was born in Hawaii, where his father was studying, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii.
The National Review said: “The theory that Obama was born in Kenya, that he was smuggled into the U.S., and that his parents somehow hoodwinked Hawaiian authorities into falsely certifying his birth in Oahu, is crazy stuff.”
Obama was not born in Kenya. He was born in Hawaii, as his official birth certificate from Hawaii shows, and as the officials in Hawaii (members of a Republican governor's administration) have repeatedly confirmed.
NO it isn't. Obama's birth certificate is irrelevant to the issue of whether the order "Go to Afgahnistan" is illegal. It is a legal order because the Afghanistan War is a legal war, approved by Congress during the bush Administration.
This is an excellent reason why Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly all call birthers crazy.
First, Obama has already shown his official birth certificate. Second, the reason that all the courts have thrown out birther cases because the plaintiffs lack standing is because all the courts agree that the birthers lack standing. When in about 60 cases all the courts rule that that is the law, it is obvious that that is the law. If you don't like the law, change it, but that is the law.
Swallow what?! Competition?! This isn't a game! O's a fool. Did he just throw a baby fit? He needs a pow-pow on his little stealth jihad bootie. How old is he again? We may never know.
O…where's the birth certificate?
Many times truth is hidden in comedy.
Obama has already shown the official birth certificate of Hawaii, which is the only one that Hawaii has sent out since 2001. Hawaii no longer sends out copies of the original birth certificate. It only sends out the new, short-form Certification of Live Birth. The facts on Obama's birth certificate–that he was born in Hawaii in 1961–were confirmed twice by the officials of the department of health and department of vital records of Hawaii, and more recently by the Republican governor (at the time, she is now a former governor), Linda Lingle.
if that joke was born in the US than i am santa freaking clause, he is so full of crap it's hard to tell where the "president" starts and the turd stops. he was born before 2001 so where is his original birth certificate, lets see that one, how about transcripts from school? no he wont show anything not a single shred of solid proof, he is a fraud and your in denial.
AMEN…
Hawaii has not sent out the original long-form birth certificate since 2001, even to people who were born before it became the official birth certificate.
No president has ever shown his school or college or graduate school transcripts.
However, he HAS shown the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and the facts on it were confirmed by two Republican officials of Hawaii and the governor of Hawaii, also a Republican.
Who cares anymore, he sucks and needs to be impeached.
You have every right to ask your representatives and senators to impeach, and to ask the heads of congressional committees and subcommittees to investigate. They will laugh at you because the evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii is overwhelming.
"However, he HAS shown the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and the facts on it were confirmed by two Republican officials of Hawaii and the governor of Hawaii, also a Republican. "
Except that the seal on his "official" birth certificate (COLB) has now been exposed as phony: http://birther-to-borner.blogspot.com/2010/12/let…
So, what does that say about the COLB itself?
Actually, that is not the case. The people who asked for the seal asked for the current seal, They admit that they do not know what the seal was in 2007 when Obama's birth certificate was created. Besides that, focusing on the document is crazy. It is the FACTS on the document that count. And the officials in Hawaii, members of a Republican governor's administration, and the Republican governor of Hawaii herself have confirmed the facts on Obama's birth certificate–that he was born in Hawaii in 1961. For these facts to be false, four officials would have had to be lying: The clerk who filled in the form in 2007, the two department heads of Hawaii's department of vital records and department of health and the governor of Hawaii. I am told that the attorney general of Hawaii for the last four years was a CONSERVATIVE Republican. If he had thought that there was anything wrong with the document or that the officials were lying, he could have taken action–but he didn't.
Ellen, you must be a paid Obama operative. The truth is: The current seal has been in place as described since at least 2005. See the following section of the Hawaii Administrative Rules: (Effective date at bottom indicates 2/14/05). the following is a direct quote, copied and pasted without alteration. It shows you lie when you say "actually, this is not the case". You have nothing to go on but an insinuation of a mere possibility that the seal may have been different in 2007. As you can see, it was not. – Shame on you!
§ 11-1-2 Seal of the department of health.
a) The official seal of the department of health shall be circular in
shape, two and one-fourth inches in diameter. At the curve on the top
portion there shall be the words "DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH" and at the curve
on the bottom portion there shall be the words "STATE OF HAWAII." At the
curve on each side portion shall be a star. In the center of the seal
shall be the Caduceus, a winged rod entwined with two serpents, which has
long been recognized as a universal symbol of medicine. The Caduceus
shall be encircled by an indentation, which shall separate it from the
words "DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH" and "STATE OF HAWAII." For illustrative
purposes, a black and white drawing of the official seal is attached at
the end of this section as Exhibit "A," titled "Seal of the Department of
Health," and dated November 1, 1988, and made a part of this section.
(b) The official seal of the department of health shall be embossed
near the signature of the director of health to verify commissions of
appointment of deputy directors and notaries public, certificates, and
other formal official documents on which the official seal has been
customarily used or is appropriate to be used, as the director of health
may determine on a case-by-case basis.
(c) The seal of the department of health may also be reproduced, in
either an enlarged or a reduced size, on official stationery, reports,
certificates, equipment, supplies, uniform insignia, and other objects
and items to be used or produced by the department of health, but the
reproduction and use of the seal shall always be subject to the exclusive
control of the director of health.
[Eff 2/14/05] (Auth: HRS §§ 321-9, 91-2) (Imp: HRS §§ 321-9, 91-2)
It is the FACTS on the document that count. And the officials in Hawaii, members of a Republican governor's administration, and the Republican governor of Hawaii herself have confirmed the facts on Obama's birth certificate–that he was born in Hawaii in 1961. For these facts to be false, four officials would have had to be lying: The clerk who filled in the form in 2007, the two department heads of Hawaii's department of vital records and department of health and the governor of Hawaii. I am told that the attorney general of Hawaii for the last four years was a CONSERVATIVE Republican. If he had thought that there was anything wrong with the document or that the officials were lying, he could have taken action–but he didn't.
JUST WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU ELLEN?
SHE IS OBAMAS MAMMY!
You are not discussing the facts, which are that Obama was born in Hawaii and three Republican officials of the state government (including the Republican governor) have confirmed that fact.
No, Ellen, it isn't. The Kenyan officials have responded to this issue and stated WITH SHOW OF A CERTIFICATE THAT WAS BROUGHT BACK TO THE U.S. that he was, indeed, born in Kenya. A copy of this information was sent out to ALL representatives, and what's really overwhelming, is that there's not been any other news on it thus far. I'm sooooo hoping that it's just a matter of time before it breaks loose on Obama.
The Lucas Smith " birth certificate" you are referred to is a proven forgery. Lucas Smith is actually a convicted felon.
Obama’s Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. She said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was born in Hawaii, where his father was studying, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii.
IF a person were born in Kenya, she or he would need a US travel document to get to the USA. That would be either a US visa on a foreign passport or the change to his mother's US passport to include him. One or the other would have had to have been applied for at a US Consulate in Kenya and granted before the child would be allowed to enter the USA.
If such a document existed, it would be easy to find because the records of the application for the visa or for the change to the mother's passport would still be in the files of the US State Department, filed under applications for visas and applications for changes to passports in Kenya in 1961. The Republicans were in charge of the US State Department until January 2009. No such document has been found. No such document exists.
Obama was not born in Kenya. He was born in Hawaii, as his official birth certificate from Hawaii shows, and the facts on it were repeatedly confirmed by the officials in Hawaii. Obama has already posted a copy of the official birth certificate, the Certification of Live Birth, which is the only birth document that Hawaii has been sending out since 2001. Hawaii no longer sends out copies of the original birth certificate, only of the official birth certificate: The Certification of Live Birth.
Ok Ellen lets say your right. What would think of someone that would let such an honorable man as Lt. Lakin to go to prison for how ever long after his excillent service to this country by denying him the simpleness of proof to be his superior and order him to die at Obama's request. O has something to hide — plain and simple. He is not eligible! Show the proof !!!!!!
I believe that Lt. Lakin is trying to be a martyr, and he will be successful. But that does not change the facts that Obama was born in Hawaii, has proven that he was born in Hawaii, and that Obama's eligibility is irrelevant to whether Lakin disobeyed the order of a superior officer who was not Obama.
Obama has already shown the proof, the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and the facts on it were confirmed twice by the heads of the department of health and department of vital records of Hawaii, and by the Republican governor, Linda Lingle. And there is a witness who recalls being told of Obama's birth in Hawaii in 1961 and writing home about it http://www.buffalonews.com/incoming/article137495…
Needs to be HUNG,or SHOT!
He needs to be tried for high treason which is punishable by death.
Damn I hate when I do that! I hit the wrong thumb when I voted. I meant to give it a thumbs down, but there's no way to change my vote.
What he showed was a FAKE!!! He needs to prove his eligibility or STEP DOWN!!
Obama's birth certificate is not a fake. The two guys who claimed that it was a fake would not give their real names. The McCain campaign checked into the allegations that the birth certificate was forged, as they checked into the allegations of birth in Hawaii, and found that they were both false. AND, the officials in Hawaii and the governor in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed the FACTS on Obama's birth certificate, that he was born in Hawaii in 1961.
Take the "P" out of his title (United States resident) , and you you got it right – almost, that is. If his story that he was born in Hawaii doesn't check out, he is actually illegal in this country because he has no certificate of naturalization – and no visa.
Obama's story of being born in Hawaii HAS been checked, by two officials of the Hawaii government, and they and the Republican governor of Hawaii have confirmed that he was born in Hawaii. And there are the notices in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961 that were not advertisements but were only notices sent by the department of vital records of Hawaii, and only for births IN Hawaii. And, there is this witness, who recalls being told of Obama's birth in Hawaii in 1961 and writing home about it
http://www.buffalonews.com/incoming/article137495…
http://www.buffalonews.com/incoming/article137495…
Obama does not need a certificate of naturalization because he is a US citizen at birth, birth in Hawaii, and because he never gave up US citizenship.
Yeah, Yeah!!! You pay me enough and I'll say anything too even lie. You are pitiful Ellen.
You are not discussing the facts. The facts are that Obama was born in Hawaii and has proven it with the official birth certificate and the repeated confirmations of the officials and Republican governor of Hawaii.
Ellen, you keep going on sites and saying the same thing – ARE YOU TRYING TO CONVINCE YOURSELF? If there is nothing to hide then show all his documents…..Oh yea, Hawaii has NOT confirmed that what he shows is the real birth CERTIFICATE..only shows that he was born alive; a real certificate has weight, length and doctors SIGNATURE on it, just to list a couple of things missing.
Give it up Ellen, he wants to get illegals amnesty to cover his own self.
have you been smoking crack again Ellen?
Actually, Hawaii has confirmed the facts on Obama's official birth certificate, the Certification of Live Birth, twice. The Certification of Live Birth is the official and only birth certificate that Hawaii has issued since 2001. Thousands of people use it every year to get US passports.
Here is a photocopy of Obama’s official birth certificate. Notice the seal on the back. Yes, it is on Factcheck’s site, but the idea that they could forge such a detailed document and the seal is laughable.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_t…
Here is confirmation that it is the official and only birth certificate that Hawaii issues
(http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204619004574320190095246658.html)
Here is the first of the two confirmations by the officials in Hawaii.
http://www.kitv.com/r/17860890/detail.html
Notice where it says that there is an original birth certificate filed. Well, in 1961 foreign birth certificates, even those from other states, could not be filed in Hawaii. So the birth certificate in Obama’s files must be a Hawaii birth certificate.
Here is the second of the two confirmations by the officials in Hawaii.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-ob…
Notice where it says that the document in the files VERIFIES that Obama was born in Hawaii. So, not only is there an official Hawaiian birth certificate in the files, but it says right on it that Obama was born in Hawaii. Hawaii has never allowed the Department of Health to issue a birth document of any kind that says on it that anyone was born in Hawaii unless there was proof that the child was born in Hawaii, and that is what the officials in Hawaii have confirmed twice.
And here is the confirmation by the governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican, that says that Obama was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/0…
And here is the statement of a witness who recalls being told of Obama’s birth in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, in 1961:
http://www.buffalonews.com/incoming/article137495…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdxbjlrdMVU&fe…
In his own words "I was born in Kenya"
That is a forged video. It is easy to take a video that says 'i was not born in Kenya" and cut out the NOT.
Ellen are you hiding something ? Do you have a crush on the bozo. Come on! You can tell us.
And it's not easy to forge a birth certificate that only you and everyone else has seen on the internet. Give us a break. Go back to kissing your full size photo of th'bozo.
The claim that the birth certificate was forged was made by two guys who would not give their real names. It was checked into by the McCain campaign, which found that the allegation of forgery was not true. I am told that the attorney general of Hawaii is a conservative Republican. If he thought that there was anything wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, he could have taken action. But he didn’t.
And, not only is there the birth certificate itself. There is the repeated confirmations of the officials in Hawaii–both the heads of the department of health and department of vital records–and the Republican governor of Hawaii. Regardless of whether you like or dislike Obama (and Linda Lingle, the Republican governor has said on several occasions that she does not like Obama and would have preferred McCain), the facts are that Obama was born in Hawaii.
Ellen, you really are trying hard to convince yourself.
There's nothing in your presentations to convince us.
Hey Ellen. Where were his parents born? Do you know what NATURAL BORN CITIZEN means? He shows no elegance to America. He shows nothing but contempt and hate for our Constitution and way of life . We don't want him here. Again — WE DON"T WANT HIM HERE!
Re: "Do you know what NATURAL BORN CITIZEN means? "
Yes
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)–Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).
“Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad.” — Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition
"Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."—William Rawle, A VIEW OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 2d ed. (1829)
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President …"—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’st attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
Not true. WND sent a request for a birth certificate for another person born the same year as Obama and got a real birth certificate for the person. A person cannot join a little league softball team with the so called certificate of live birth he has shown, get a drivers license, apply for food stamps,enroll in Jr. college, join the Army, or most anything else that ID is required. This has gone on long enough. It doesn't matter how big the lies liberals try to push on us we will only believe it when he shows the real thing.That would be period. So stop tring to push this crock on us . Just come up with the real thing.
Baloney. Some people have their original birth certificates that they have saved since the time of their birth. But Hawaii has not sent out copies of the original since 2001, even to people who were born before 2001. The Certification of Live Birth is used to get thousands of drivers licenses and thousands of passports every year.
The Wall Street Journal said:
“The birthers have also misrepresented the law in the claims they have made about Obama’s birth certificate. In truth, Obama has proved that he is a native of Hawaii, and this proof would hold up in any legal or administrative proceeding.
In order to explain the birthers’ deception on this point, it is necessary to delve into the arcana of Hawaiian vital records. The document that Obama has released, which carries the title “certification of live birth,” confirms that the president was born in Honolulu. It is a legal birth certificate, and, as the Honolulu Star-Bulletin notes, it is the only kind of birth certificate the state of Hawaii issues….
Further, if Congress were to pass the so-called birther bill, Obama would be able to comply easily. The bill would require presidential campaigns to submit “a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate” to the Federal Election Commission. The certificate Obama has released publicly would meet this requirement.”
You are sadly uninformed. If by some chance he was born in Hawaii, he still does not meet the requirement of having parents who are both citizens of this country, a requirement plainly stated int he Constitution. In addition, he himself has admitted dual citizenship which would also disqualify him. The truth will come out eventually and a lot of media and other willfully blind will be made to look like fools.
Where did you get this idea from? It is wrong.
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President …"—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’st attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
“Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad.” — Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)–Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).
It's the seal, honey. It's fake. http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2010/12/ That makes the certificate a fake.
Ellen,I think you are mentally off,If you don’t crawl back under your rock I’m goin to write to Michelle,and tell her her You been sleeping with that Muslim husband of hers(IF they are married).!!!
If Obama really has a long form birth certificate, then I want to see it. Its not good enough that "hawaii officials" saw it. why cant the american people see it? Answer me that Ellen.
Because HAWAII decided not to send out copies of the long-form birth certificate any more. If you wand to see the original, convince HAWAII to change its rules. HAWAII thinks that its new short-form Certification is sufficient, especially with the repeated confirmations of the officials in Hawaii.
Go away ellen, The stench from your lips sickens me that there are still people out there like you……Your to stupid and ignorant for me .. We all know he has paid with tax payers money millions to doctor and hide his and her records form the American People along with hush money.. a coward does what a coward is .. so go already and spew your vomit to your people they will eat it up….or did they finely see the truth of him and abandon… so now you seek to try and convince people here he is legal..hahahahahahha.
Here is a job to keep you busy go seek out why he has so many SS numbers do they all it belong to him??? really.
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ITS PEOPLE
Obama has published the official birth certificate of Hawaii and the officials in Hawaii have confirmed the facts on it repeatedly. You can ignore facts, but they are still the facts.
No, they are not the facts. What you keep repeating is what someone else keeps repeating. And, so far I haven't seen too many "officials" above lying – have you?
Some officials do lie. But in this case we have three Republican officials, and if they were lying the attorney general of Hawaii is a CONSERVATIVE Republican, and he would take action against them. In addition to the officials, there is this witness http://www.buffalonews.com/incoming/article137495…
Then there are the notices in the Hawaii newspapers at the time. In those days, the birth notices were sent out only by the department of vital records of Hawaii. They were not advertisements inserted by relatives; they were official notices (notice that they are all in the same format), and they were sent out ONLY for births in Hawaii and not for births outside of Hawaii. So, the officials in Hawaii in 1961 would have had to have been part of the plot.
Also, Obama’s Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. She said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was born in Hawaii, where his father was studying, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii.
The address that was used for his birth announcment was never an address where they had lived. It was the home of an old couple that had lived there for many years.. Your an Obama Obot and you do not know where of you speak….. Go back to licking his boots.
Big deal. They gave the address of Obama's mother's parents. That is a legal address, and there is nothing wrong with living with parents until you get your own home.
Come on Ellen, crawl back under your rock… All he showed was a Certification of Live Birth that any one could get by recording their birth certificate regardless of origin… That was 338.17.5 from the records department. Hawaii never confirmed he was born in Hawaii, none of the hospitals have any record of his birth and if truth were known when he came to Hawaii at age ten he just entered and didn't file out any papers for naturalization. He is probably an illegal immigrant…
The Certification of Live Birth is the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and it cannot be issued with a lie in it as to the place of birth. Yes, there are Certifications issued to the children of residents even when they are born outside of Hawaii, but the document must then state the actual place of birth. Thus you get something that reads like this: "Hawaii certification of live birth; Place of BIrth: Philadelphia, PA (or wherever)" Obama's Certification clearly shows that he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, and that is the fact that the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed. Four officials would have to be lying for the document to be false: the clerk who filled in the form in 2007, the two heads of departments who confirmed the facts on it, and the Republican governor of Hawaii, Linda LIngle.
Since Obama was born in Hawaii, and never gave up US citizenship, he did not have to be naturalized.
HE DID NOT SHOW HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE !! A CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH WAS POSTED ON LINE. THAT IS NOT A BIRTH CERTIFICATE !!!!!! ELLEN, YOU BUMPED YOUR HEAD IF YOU THINK HE WAS BORN IN HAWAII.
The Certification of Live Birth is the official birth certificate of Hawaii, used by thousands of people to get their passports every year.
The Wall Street Journal said:
“The birthers have also misrepresented the law in the claims they have made about Obama’s birth certificate. In truth, Obama has proved that he is a native of Hawaii, and this proof would hold up in any legal or administrative proceeding.
In order to explain the birthers’ deception on this point, it is necessary to delve into the arcana of Hawaiian vital records. The document that Obama has released, which carries the title “certification of live birth,” confirms that the president was born in Honolulu. It is a legal birth certificate, and, as the Honolulu Star-Bulletin notes, it is the only kind of birth certificate the state of Hawaii issues….
Further, if Congress were to pass the so-called birther bill, Obama would be able to comply easily. The bill would require presidential campaigns to submit “a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate” to the Federal Election Commission. The certificate Obama has released publicly would meet this requirement.”
WOW!!! WHAT ARE YOU SMOKIN LADY!! THIS BUM HAS SPENT 2 MILLION DOLLARS OF TAXPAYERS MONEY HIDING HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE (HINT: BECAUSE THERE IS NOT A VALID ONE)FROM THE BARAGE OF LAWSUITS AGAINST HIM WHAT IS HIDING? HIS OWN AUNT SAID HE WAS BORN IN KENYA, WAKE UP,DO YOUR HOMEWORK,ITS BECAUSE OF CITIZENS LIKE YOU THAT WE HAVE A BUM FOR PRESIDENT THAT HAS TO CALL A FORMER PRESIDENT FOR HELP BECAUSE OF HIS POLITICAL IMATURITY,BOY I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANOTHER PRESIDENT DO THAT!!
What are you smoking? There was never a lawsuit against Obama just for his birth certificate. His birth certificate is the official birth certificate of Hawaii, used by thousands of people every year, and the facts on it were confirmed repeatedly by the officials in Hawaii.
Obama’s Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. She said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was born in Hawaii, where his father was studying, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii.
Yes, there was investigations into this issue of his birth certificate and two people ended up dead. There are reports of it and as soon as I can find where I stored them, I WILL post it for you.
Turns out that the guy who looked into the Obama file is NOT one of the dead. And, the guy who is dead is not someone who looked into Obama's file.
http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2010/09/birther-…
Moreover, regarding the breach. There are reports that the three employees saw the files. There is no indication whatsoever that they changed any file or files (or that they could).
Ellen, you sure do troll a lot on these boards citing your Obamapraise rhetoric. If you love Obama so much, maybe you should serve in Kenya or prison where he belongs.
You are not discussing the facts.
The fact IS that Obama's FATHER WAS A 'BRITISH SUBJECT' AND SO OBAMA WAS 'NOT' BORN OF US CITIZENS!
Yes what you said is true. But that was and is well-known. It was known before the election, and it was known when the US Congress voted to confirm Obama's election UNANIMOUSLY.
The citizenship of Obama's father has no effect on Obama's Natural Born Citizen status, which is not affected by one or even two parents. It is affected by citizenship at birth, which in virtually all cases is caused by the location of birth.
“Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad.” — Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition
"Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."—William Rawle, A VIEW OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 2d ed. (1829)
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)–Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President …"—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’st attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
This was well known before the election and before the US Congress confirmed Obama's election UNANIMOUSLY. THE reason is that the citizenship of Obama's father has no effect on Obama's eligibility. The original meaning of Natural Born Citizen, the one that applies to Obama, was simply a citizen due to being born in the country. The fact is that Obama WAS born in the country, in Hawaii.
"Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."—William Rawle, A VIEW OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 2d ed. (1829)
“Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad.” — Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President …"—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’st attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
I recently had to produce my real, original birth certificate to renew my drivers license, nothing else would be accepted! So you tell me why Obama shouldn't have to do the same thing to get and keep his job as president, a he– of a lot more important than proving I'm a citizen to get a drivers license. It's damn important to American's and Obama has not proved anything!
Obama has already shown his real, official birth certificate. Hawaii has not sent out copies of the original birth certificate since 2001. Thousands of people use the official birth certificate, the Certification of Live Birth to get drivers' licenses and thousands more to get US passports every year.
"Ellen" is an Obot using numerous "names" on various websites. That said….
No official of the State of Hawaii has ever confirmed the authenticity of either of the two desparate versions of NObama's "Certification of Live Birth" that have been posted on various websites — because neither of them are authentic. The first one, initially posted by the DailyKos, didn't even have the embossed seal of Hawaii or the signature of the issuing Hawaii official on it. The second one, posted on FightTheSmears et al, did have what appeared to be the embossed seal of Hawaii and a signature on it. Google "HDOH" (Hawaii Department of Health) and you'll find that the "embossed seal" on the second one is phoney.
Naturally the officials have not confirmed the document since they have not seen a paper copy of it. What they have confirmed is much more important than the document, it is the FACTS on the document. That is what the officials in Hawaii have confirmed repeatedly.
Here is a photocopy of Obama’s official birth certificate. Notice the seal on the back. Yes, it is on Factcheck’s site, but the idea that they could forge such a detailed document and the seal is laughable.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_t…
Here is confirmation that it is the official and only birth certificate that Hawaii issues
(http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204619004574320190095246658.html)
Here is the first of the two confirmations by the officials in Hawaii.
http://www.kitv.com/r/17860890/detail.html
Notice where it says that there is an original birth certificate filed. Well, in 1961 foreign birth certificates, even those from other states, could not be filed in Hawaii. So the birth certificate in Obama’s files must be a Hawaii birth certificate.
Here is the second of the two confirmations by the officials in Hawaii.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-07-27-ob…
Notice where it says that the document in the files VERIFIES that Obama was born in Hawaii. So, not only is there an official Hawaiian birth certificate in the files, but it says right on it that Obama was born in Hawaii. Hawaii has never allowed the Department of Health to issue a birth document of any kind that says on it that anyone was born in Hawaii unless there was proof that the child was born in Hawaii, and that is what the officials in Hawaii have confirmed twice.
And here is the confirmation by the governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, a Republican, that says that Obama was born in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/0…
And here is the statement of a witness who recalls being told of Obama’s birth in Hawaii, in Kapiolani Hospital, in 1961:
http://www.buffalonews.com/incoming/article137495…
Re the seal being phoney. Baloney. I am told that the attorney general of Hawaii is a conservative Republican. If he thought that there was anything wrong with Obama’s birth certificate, he could have taken action. But he didn’t.
Would you please do everyone a really big favor and stop re-posting the same obfuscating bullshit over and over?
Ellen, just remember the saying that goes something like this:"you can FOOL Some of the people Some of the time, but you CAN'T FOOL ALL the people ALL the TIME" Apparently, OBAMA'S FOOLED YOU!!!!
The Wall Street Journal said;
"Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn."
And that is why Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck all call birthers crazy, and that is why the US Congress confirmed Obama's election UNANIMOUSLY.
A birth certificate And a certificate of life are two totally different certificates. You sound like you went to a the same college as obama.
In Hawaii, the CERTIFICATION of Live Birth is the new official, and only birth certificate that Hawaii issues. Thousands of people use it for passports and thousands more for drivers' licenses every year.
The Wall Street Journal said:
“The birthers have also misrepresented the law in the claims they have made about Obama’s birth certificate. In truth, Obama has proved that he is a native of Hawaii, and this proof would hold up in any legal or administrative proceeding.
In order to explain the birthers’ deception on this point, it is necessary to delve into the arcana of Hawaiian vital records. The document that Obama has released, which carries the title “certification of live birth,” confirms that the president was born in Honolulu. It is a legal birth certificate, and, as the Honolulu Star-Bulletin notes, it is the only kind of birth certificate the state of Hawaii issues….
Further, if Congress were to pass the so-called birther bill, Obama would be able to comply easily. The bill would require presidential campaigns to submit “a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate” to the Federal Election Commission. The certificate Obama has released publicly would meet this requirement.”
Ellin
How huge of a moron do you have to become before you admit to the fact that your boy is a damned illegal alien?
How stupid and selfish of a person are you? For sake of the nincompoop coward that you voted for? It that the depth of your understanding regarding your conviction and role in United States governance? We all make errors and hell I voted for Jimmy Carter – but as a contributing and patriotic American, do not repeat mistakes and will not allow that a fraud, ineligible hoax and empty hologram sit in the highest office in the land to appease your ass! Hawaii has already stated that they do have and have seen the long form — So show it
But they cant because it does not exist – therefore your information regarding Hawaii this and Hawaii that is wrong — There is uniformity across the states and simply because you are unaware of process does not make your presumptions or desires correct. The man you admire is a criminal and you will read about him in federal prison for life — Tell your kids about your ballot of 2008, they will shake their heads and say "Mom how possibly could you have cast so important of a ballot on a charlatan and fraud!! – my own Mom???!!!!!"
Mark my words sister
Hawaii has said that it has the long-form. It also has said that it no longer sends out copies of the long-form, it only sends out the new official short-form birth certificate, known as the Certification of Live BIrth. That is the one that Obama showed and posted.
You don't know what you're talking about NO one has seen a long form cert. He has spent over 2 million $
to hide all his records WHY?the answer is clear you damn liberal.
There has never been a lawsuit against Obama just for his birth certificate. Obama has already shown his official birth certificate, the Certification of Live Birth.
Also, Hawaii does not send out the long form. Hawaii stopped sending out the long form birth certificate when the short-form became the official birth certificate in 2001. Hawaii does not send out the original long-form birth certificate even to people who were born before 2001. That is Hawaii's decision, that it made back in 2001.
Are you lonely Ellen? Or just on the public dole?
copy, paste, copy, paste, copy paste?
Are you getting the proper amount of attention you're craving?
…just saying.
And what planet are you from ?? Hawaii, obama, the gov linda all tole me you were an alien from there ..
Should I believe them for you….You are one of the reasons America is in the trouble it is.. You have no brains for understanding common sense..
This is an excellent example of why Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly all call birthers crazy.
You say it is the only official one since 2001. Well they changed the way they now list it in the Department of Health under 338.17.5. Hawaii stated earlier the COLB the imposter has would not be accepted as a birth certificate. They are back tracking to save their asses… When he was born the document he has was given to anyone who recorded a birth certificate regardless of origin. He is a phony and even if he was born in Hawaii he was born a British subject and nothing changes that.
When he was born Hawaii issued birth certificates ONLY to persons born in Hawaii.
The COLB is the official and only birth certificate of Hawaii.
Obama's British father has no effect on his Natural Born Citizen status.
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President …"—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’st attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
"Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity."—William Rawle, A VIEW OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. 2d ed. (1829)
Who are you an Ellen Degeneres Lezbo? or are you Obama's campaign manager or new homeland security Nazi groping chief? Obama is Satan and is a double speak fork tongued lying serpent and silver tongued devil!
Sorry, the people whose address was shown in his birth announcement were unrelated. They didn't know him nor did he ever reside at that address..
The address was that of his grandparents.
Further to that:
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=107337
The third paragraph reads:
Additional research has established that the grandparents, Madelyn and Stanley Dunham, lived at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, not Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham.
Your full of crap. What have you been smoking or snorting? The people who lived at that address were interviewed and knew nothing about him so why don't you knock off the deception…..
The address was that of Obama's mother's parents.
"Additional research has established that the grandparents, Madelyn and Stanley Dunham, lived at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, not Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham. http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=107337
Ellen you ignorant slut !!!
Ellen try some x-lax,,,obviously your full of shit,,,,,,,,,,,,
I think that Congress should enact a law that anyone who seeks the Office of the President MUST show positive proof that he or she is a natural born citizen of the United States of America in order to show that he or she is qualified to be President under the Constitution of the United States of America!!!!
Rick it is in the US Constitution there dose not need to be another law enacted . We need our law makers and enforcers to follow the Constitution. Another words there is already a law . Just read the US Constitution .
If it did, it would only ask for the OFFICIAL birth certificate, not the original. Why not the original? Because most states no longer send out copies of the original and some may not even have kept their old files. Obama has already shown the official birth certificate.
The Wall Street Journal said: "Further, if Congress were to pass the so-called birther bill, Obama would be able to comply easily. The bill would require presidential campaigns to submit “a copy of the candidate’s birth certificate” to the Federal Election Commission. The certificate Obama has released publicly would meet this requirement.”
I no-longer want to see his birth certificate , I want to see his certificate of release from the asylum .
Any photo or paper could be false by now, anyway, why bother. It is just to late. The proof needs to be at the beginning not after. I mean why hold anything responsible after the gate was open. The gate is open too dag gone much.
Al
Theres an old saw that goes "Who's the fool, the fool, or the one that follows the fool?" Well, I can lay claim to this one. I didn't follow him, let alone vote for him. I didn't like John McCain, but at least he can prove his citizenship. Barack Obama, is the biggest fool, that I've ever seen as an "bungler to a purpose," in my entire life. His people had the temerity to say that Sarah Palin was a bimbo, and worse. She's got more executive experience than Obama, and Joe Biden (Who lives in an estate, paid for at tax payers expense, in Delaware when he's not lying about the latest "scam" that his boss is trying to foist on the American Taxpayers) His longform birthcertificate is a matter of controversy to this day, and the reason for that, is that there isn't one. He can't prove it. That private meeting with the Supremes, was simple. He told them that he was going to be sworn in and aside from anything that they had heard about his "citizenship issues." (All of that last part is just my opinion, but considering how absent the Court has been about hearing matters that it should have in the past 100+ years of the past century, and how it picks and chooses who has "standing" and who doesn't when it comes to him. It's understandable why, they including more than the rest Chief Justice John Roberts is complicit in this greatest of all frauds and crimes ever committed against the American People.) IF I'm wrong, then someone explain to me, why his first act as President (actually Bogus P.O.T.U.S.) was to sign an executive order sealing his records. His entire career has been a lie. He was first of all recruited by the C.I.A. and from Occidental College in L.A. to act as a "BagMan" for the Mujiehadeen in Afghanistan. He travelled to Pakistan in 1981, that was impossible back then for an American to do that, but, he wasn't an American, he was and is still an Indonesian National (In my opinion) and travelled there on an Indonesian Passport.
I'd like to know what happened to the birth certificate that, in his own book, Obama said he found inside a folded up newspaper article about his father.
Like the rest of his book….that too is BS!
Yes, but he didn't say that he had saved it. Lots of people lose their birth certificates, particularly when their families move a lot. So, in 2007 he asked Hawaii to send him another, and Hawaii sent him the Certification of Live Birth, which is what it sends to everyone. That is the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and has been since 2001. Hawaii has not sent out copies of the original long-form birth certificate since 2001. In Obama's case the facts on the birth certificate were confirmed twice by the officials in Hawaii and by the Republican governor of Hawaii.
Re: "IF I'm wrong, then someone explain to me, why his first act as President (actually Bogus P.O.T.U.S.) was to sign an executive order sealing his records."
Answer: His first executive order made it harder, not easier, for presidents and former presidents to seal their records. AND, it only applies to the federal presidential records of presidents and former presidents. It has no effect on state records or college records. If such records were private–not open to the general public–before the executive order, they were just as private after the order. They were not affected by the order at all. They are not sealed, they are simply private–not open to the general public–as are virtually all birth certificate and college records.
The man needs to go, before he finishes destroying America,
If Odrama is Commander in Chief, he should be Court Martialed for treason, dishonorably discharged, and sent to Leavenworth or more appropriately Guantanimo Bay where he can respond to the daily call to prayer with his co-conspirators.
ELLEN, YOU FORGET ANOTHER ISSUE. HIS PARENTS MUST BOTH BE AMERICAN CITIZENS! 1. HIS FATHER WAS NOT AN AMERICAN! 2 HIS MOTHER GAVE UP HER CITIZENSHIP TO BE A CITIZEN OF HIS FATHER’S COUNTRY. THUS MAKING BOTH OF HIS PARENTS NOT AMERICAN CITIZENS AND THE CHILD IS NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN BECAUSE HIS MOTHER AND FATHER WERE NOT AT THE TIME OF HIS BIRTH. HE IS NOT AN AMERICAN AND NEVER WAS AN AMERICAN. HE WAS BORN IN KENYA AND EVEN IF A KENYAN REGISTERED A LIVE BIRTH IN HAWAII, IT WAS FOR A KENYAN CHILD NOT AN AMERICAN CHILD. SO PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT. HE IS A IMMIGRANT AND NOT AN AMERICAN CITIZEN HE DID NOT GET LEGAL PAPERS TO CHANGE TO A CITIZEN AND EVEN IF HE DID HE MUST BE AN AMERICAN BORN CITIZEN WITH BOTH PARENTS AMERICAN CITIZENS. HIS FATHER NEVER WAS AND HIS MOTHER THROUGH AWAY HER CITIZENCHIP. SO BE QUIET AND LET THE ADULTS TALK AND STOP LIEING OR YOU WILL NEED YOUR MOUTH WASHED OUT WITH SOAP,
Where did you get the two-parent idea from? It is wrong.
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President …"—- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005) [Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’st attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
“Natural born citizen. Persons who are born within the jurisdiction of a national government, i.e. in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens temporarily residing abroad.” — Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition
“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)–Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT).
Recent FOIA research shows that Obama's mother DID NOT give up her citizenship.
When Obama was born a foreign birth certificate could not be registered in Hawaii. Therefore, the original birth certificate in Obama's file is from Hawaii, as the officials in Hawaii have repeatedly confirmed.
Where is obama's college transcript from the University of Columbia? Whereis obama's American birth certificate? The answer is there is not either which makes obama not only a fraud but guilty of treason.
No presidents have ever shown their transcripts. Obama has already shown his official birth certificate from Hawaii, which is known as the Certification of Live Birth.
We laugh, but wait til January when the Republican majority takes over the House. You think you've seen Obama "testy"? I give it six weeks before we start hearing stories of his explosions behind the scenes; no more than six months before the mask slips in public on the floor of the House. It's gonna be a lively two years, folks!
NO Republican has called for an investigation of Obama's place of birth. That is because they believe the three Republican officials in Hawaii who have repeatedly confirmed the official birth certificate that says that he was born in Hawaii.
Here's something to mull over…anybody wanna move? just a thought.
Kenya is named after Mount Kenya, a major landmark and the second highest mountain peak in Africa.
After decades of colonial rule the country gained its independence from Great Britain in December, 1963 and on December 12, 1964, the Republic of Kenya was proclaimed. Mzee Jomo Kenyatta became its first president and remained in office until his death in 1978.
Daniel arap Moi became president following Kenyatta’s death and retained that office until 1988. (He ran unopposed in elections held in 1979, 1983 and 1988). The 1988 election was done by the mlolongo (queuing) system – voters lined up behind their favorite candidate instead of using a secret ballot. This led to a constitutional reform.
Daniel arap Moi was reelected in multiparty elections in 1992 and 1997. He was constitutionally barred from running in 2002 and Mwai Kibaki won and was then re-elected in 2007.
President Kibaki has focused his efforts on generating economic growth, combating corruption, improving education, and rewriting its constitution. As a result, Kenya has remained stable, despite changes in its political system and crises in neighboring countries.
Kenya’s population is relatively young – over 70% are under the age of 30. The population has also increased rapidly – in just over 80 years, it has grown from less than 3 million to 38 million.
this was taken from http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/africa/ke.ht...
Ellen, check out this site – his very own grandmother confirmed his Kenyan birth! http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=78931
Obama’s Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. She said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was born in Hawaii, where his father was studying, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii.
IF a person were born in Kenya, she or he would need a US travel document to get to the USA. That would be either a US visa on a foreign passport or the change to his mother's US passport to include him. One or the other would have had to have been applied for at a US Consulate in Kenya and granted before the child would be allowed to enter the USA.
If such a document existed, it would be easy to find because the records of the application for the visa or for the change to the mother's passport would still be in the files of the US State Department, filed under applications for visas and applications for changes to passports in Kenya in 1961. The Republicans were in charge of the US State Department until January 2009. No such document has been found. No such document exists.
Obama was not born in Kenya. He was born in Hawaii, as his official birth certificate from Hawaii shows, and the facts on it were repeatedly confirmed by the officials in Hawaii.
If you can't stand the stink, get out of the out house.
Guaranteed valid birth certificate? When I started digging into municipal malfeasance in hometown St. Joseph, Mo., the victim's death certificate was changed from accidental to natural causes. You can fight City Hall, but if you win, you'll wish you hadn't. Old Octofart.
You should read this and then come back with more of you hype and smart ass replies..
http://www.newswithviews.com/Stuter/stuter188.htm
He is a phony……..
The reply is that Obama has already shown the official birth certificate of Hawaii. She is wrong in saying that he hasn't. And, not only has he shown the official birth certificate, the officials in Hawaii and the governor of Hawaii (a Republican) have confirmed the facts on it–that Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961.
Obama was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii as HE CLAIMS. He is an African, NOT AN AMERICAN. He was installed as President with lies from his supporters. Pelosi filed fraudulent instruments to back him for President. He has used 39 different Social Security numbers in order to attend schools free. I could write a book on the life of this fellow. As " head of the Armed Forces " he should be COURT MARSHALLED for what he has done to America.
Obama was not born in Kenya. The Kenyan myth is a particularly stupid birther creation. Have you even considered the ENORMOUS expense of such a trip in 1961? Have you considered the enormous risk that a pregnant woman would take in making such a trip (and the scenario only works if she went to Kenya late in pregnancy). In those days US airlines often refused to carry women late in pregnancy. And then, IF she had gone to Kenya and given birth there, she would have had to (1) lie about the trip; (2) somehow smuggle Obama from Kenya to the USA without a US travel document.
IF a person were born in Kenya, she or he would need a US travel document to get to the USA. That would be either a US visa on a foreign passport or the change to his mother's US passport to include him. One or the other would have had to have been applied for at a US Consulate in Kenya and granted before the child would be allowed to enter the USA.
If such a document existed, it would be easy to find because the records of the application for the visa or for the change to the mother's passport would still be in the files of the US State Department, filed under applications for visas and applications for changes to passports in Kenya in 1961. The Republicans were in charge of the US State Department until January 2009. No such document has been found. No such document exists.
Obama was not born in Kenya. He was born in Hawaii, as his official birth certificate from Hawaii shows, and the facts on it were repeatedly confirmed by the officials in Hawaii. Obama has already posted a copy of the official birth certificate, the Certification of Live Birth, which is the only birth document that Hawaii has been sending out since 2001. Hawaii no longer sends out copies of the original birth certificate, only of the official birth certificate: The Certification of Live Birth.
Obama’s Kenyan grandmother NEVER said that he was born in Kenya. She said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was born in Hawaii, where his father was studying, and she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii.
The National Review said: “The theory that Obama was born in Kenya, that he was smuggled into the U.S., and that his parents somehow hoodwinked Hawaiian authorities into falsely certifying his birth in Oahu, is crazy stuff.”
The 39 SS numbers comes only from birther sites, and has not been confirmed by anyone. However, the SS administration is well known to have made multiple errors in hundreds of thousands of files.
The Connecticut SS number error is easy to understand. SS numbers were generated by the zip code of the applicant’s address. Obama’s address in Hawaii was in zip code 96814, and the zip code for Danbury, CT. is 06814. Notice how close 0 and 9 are to each other on the keyboard?
Obama has hijacked USA it's a fact we need to get him out fast. He was not born in USA he does not know what he is doing.