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Why is anyone suprised at this. Obama has never done anything wrong cause "It's All ways been and always wiil be George Bushes Fault". If the Liberal/Socialist/Dems dont have anyone else (Repub or Conserv) to blame for what's wrong with anything, then they simply have no Cogent Argument, nothing to say. Just listen to their Rhetoric and the Leftist/Socialist Press. No arguments just defamation, putdowns, accusations and Blame.
Guess their Mommies never taught them that there are three fingers pointing back at you when you Point your Finger at someone else.
Who was it that called those of us who want Immigration Enforcement, not Amenesty, ENEMIES? Why, I do believe. it was none other than the Muslim-In-Chief. Just who is it that has falsely tried to Lable the TeaPartiers as RACISTS? Why, I do believe it is the Leftist/Marxist/Socialists among us.
Now we find out that this Disturbed young Arizonan gravitated to Marx and Hitler, and is a Registered DemocRAT and the COMMIES still want to Blame the Conservatives. Guess they really have nothing Cogent to say on this subject either.
BLAME ILLEGAL CORRUPT MUSLIM SOCIALIST BY CONDUCT OBUMBA, PELOSI, REID, ALL THE DEMOCRAPS RETARDED IDIOTS IN CONGRESS; THEY FORCED HEALTH-CARE ON US, ILLEGALS, SPENDING OUT OF CONTROL; NO WONDER PEOPLE GO CREAZY…….
Posted: January 08, 2011
5:22 pm Eastern
By Aaron Klein
© 2011 WorldNetDaily
"The Communist Manifesto" and Hitler's "Mein Kampf" were among the favorite reading materials of Jared Lee Loughner, the suspected gunman in today's fatal shooting that reportedly left six dead and gravely injured a U.S. congresswoman.
Lougher, 22, listed those tomes among his favorites on his YouTube channel, in which he wrote that "conscience dreams" were a "great study" at his college, Pima Community College.
One user on Twitter, Caitie Parker, wrote she went to high school, college and was in a band with the gunman. She said she hadn't seen him since 2007.
Parker wrote of Lougher, "As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal and oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy."
She also described him as "more left."
Lougher also left a trail of bold political statements.
The man Has openly been said to be politically left of Center several times, by reporters, Jared( shooter ) having read "Mine Kampf", "Communist Doctrine", political statements on his website.
How is it the Liberal oriented media, reports the shooter Jared as Tea Party oriented? That is the total opposite!
paulrever: I noticed that too. I guess they have to cover their tracks somehow, huh.
Too bad for them, he's a self documented, Commie, anarchist!
I fully agree. I made a comment a while ago that this site did not feel the need to post. My comment was not as harsh as some that I have read in the last three hours. Kudos to those who get their comments posted. I agree that this shooter was much more on the left side. He likes to read Communist propaganda . His beliefs stray far left of the Tea Party.
Once again I am being censored, and my comments go un posted
I can't believe the Arizona shooting isn't Bush's fault. Looks like the Dems have latched onto a new scapegoat and her name is Sarah Palin. One thing they overlooked, the AZ shooter was one of them (A leftist, marxist) so my message to the Dems. Grow up, we are not all stupid….
The left, in general, believes what they do about guns from what they have heard from others on the left. I have personally trained some first-time shooters who were self-identified as "liberals" and they did, without exception, express surprise and relief that gun owners are not psychos. I ask them where they heard this, and they always say that it's from one of their "friends" who are not gun owners. This chain of truth sounds a lot like that "friend of a friend" that we hear about on Snopes and other myth-busting sites, similar to "Bill Gates will send you a million dollars" and so on. Purely fabrication, but in this particular case, it is damaging to reputations and affects livelihoods — and lives.
Floyd Brown: I want you to know that I have signed all of the petitions for impeachment, health care etc. that you have solicited on this web site. Now I wonder if you are actually who you say you are./ Why are my commen not posted? You are an imposter who just wants to do Obamas work. I don't believe you are for conservative causes
The Communist Leftists are absolutely TERRIFIED of Sarah Palin and the Tea Party because Sarah & the TP represent pro-America and pro-Constitution — our country and the supreme law of our land — which those Communist Leftists have sworn on Karl Marx's grave to DESTROY with every lie, every device, every tactic, every stone, every Molotov coctail, every cheap shot they can possibly muster. I would not be surprised if the Arizona shooting is seized upon as an opportunity to declare martial law, or grab every gun in America, or take control of the internet, or round up all Tea Party members in cattle cars and send them to the American Siberia (Artic Circle). After all, let's not let a GOOD CRISIS GO TO WASTE, shall we?
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There is a time to mourn. There is a time heal. And there is a time to keep silence. This is the time to keep silent on your personal opinions. Yes, we do hear vitriolic (spiteful & malicious) rhetoric daily, but it comes from ALL sources of media. It comes from the type of music this kid Chose to listen to, the programs he Chose to watch on TV, what he Chose to look at on the Internet, and who he Chose to listen to. In computer lingo– GIGO stands for Garbage In Garbage Out which means if we fill our head with Garbage, then the output will be Garbage. I say it is the parents’ job to train up a child in the way he should go when he is young. He is now an adult and becomes responsible for his Own Choices and his Own Actions.
Well said friend, well said.
Leave it to the left wing media to spin this thing to the point that they'd blame somebody except the shooter…The guy read Marx and acts like what we have in the left wing media,not to even mention who's been running Washington for the last two yrs
Where's the birth certificate?
Well, I have to Agree with Senator Alexander, Candy Crowley needs to stop pushing this kind of rubbish. Something which I feel, unfortunately, the Liberals and Extreme Leftist don't have, anyone with an ounce of common sense and decency, would never dream of doing anything violent to fix what is wrong with our Government. Most of us go through the proper channels, ie: E-mails to our Representatives and Congress men and women; Faxes, either from our personal fax machine, or through organizations we participate with.
Part 2.
I would bet, if you took a look at what has been said on any of the popular internet sites, you wuld find, any message coming from a Conservative, would be full of sympathy, prayers for the victims and families and horror at what happened.
PLEASE, do not turn these folks tragic Death and/or injuries into a MEDIA CIRCUS.
I would also like to see some concern for the perpertrator of this Horrific act. He must be a very tormented young man to have done something so drastic.
Perhaps the likes of Candy Crowley and her questions are the root of the problem. Her questioning was blatantly wrong. The general media tries so hard to direct the questions to get a liberal spin on answers. This time she was not successful. Viewers are getting smarter and can definitely see the media bias.
How about the tone from the White House. Obama who referred to Republicans in the last election as "the enemy". If I am not mistaken didn't he also make a comment along the lines of “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” That was in June 2008 at a Philadelphia fundraiser .
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/06/14/obama-if…
Other Obama quotes:
Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”
Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”
Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”
Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”
Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”
As far as I can tell all of those statements are encouraging violence. Oh great leader (lmao) me thinks you are promoting violence!!!!!!!
OMG! This is just what the "left" has been waiting for! My God! This kid WAS the LEFT! People need to start taking responsibility for what they do and how they may react to free speech. Maybe we should be looking at Van Jones or Frances Fox Pivens – they have been ENCOURAGING the left to VIOLENCE! I have seen them on video saying these things! There is s BIG difference between saying "We need to stop and reload" and "You need to express your anger and make President Obama do the things he knows he has to do". BIG difference!
Hey McCarthy, Congress passed a bill in '07 to deal with mentally ill and guns. Enforce existing laws, idiot http://politi.co/e1N6pB
The real issue and problem – in spite of the spin by politically biased and opportunistic pundits – is not one of 'right' or 'left' politics, but of the failure of government to perform competently and lawfully.
When government doesn't uphold the law but instead blatantly violates it, and in the case of the AZ shooter doesn't filter such a mentally ill person and identify them prior to such tragic circumstances, it only fuels the lack of confidence in government that some fringe extremists constantly erroneously apply to any role of government — and contributes to the grievances the mentally ill will obsess upon.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/arti…
The conservatives first response was to pray. The liberals first response is to blame. Sarah Palin simply used a symbol on a political map to target the state for election purposes. There is NOTHING about her character or in anything she has ever said that comes remotely close to endorsing, or promoting violence against anyone. Every candidate that has ever run and that is even remotely organized uses a political map to target states that important to them. Use whatever symbol you want to use. To suggest that Sarah was promoting violence is pure madness and an attempt at character assasination( and no I am not promoting violence either). Plain and simple. Please stop and desist with your obsessive behavior in attacking her character Mr and Ms liberal left wing extremist media. It is getting very very old and tired.
Unless you are trying to project onto others what you yourselves are actually trying to accomplish. Violence solves nothing. I hope the left realizes this?
Sarah Palin used a surveyors' symbol in which the ends of the "crosshairs" protrude from the circle. Drafters use the same symbol in their drawings of the different types of views of a part which is being designed. In a gun sight, the ends of the crosshairs do not protrude from the circle, and often have very short perpendicular lines crossing them. This is just another way in which the Left-stream Media twist things to fit their Marxist narrative.
Dave that is the best statement I have yet seen on this tragic event. Goes to show that the media does not care about the truth, just its liberal agenda. Thank you!
This women is inciting more violence by insinuation , she is a typical liberal JERK, no brains.
Candy Crowley is a true LIBERAL!!!!!
FIRST, I WILL DEFINE MY TERMS:
CLASSIC LIBERAL: Those of us who value the U.S. Constitution, our Liberty, and traditional American values. We are often called Teabaggers, far-right extremists, radical right, etc. by the Marxists.
MARXIST: One who espouses the totalitarian teachings of Marx, Engels, Alinsky, and Chomsky. This includes Fascists, Nazis (National Socialists), Socialists, and Communists. Today, Marxists like to call themselves Liberals and Progressives.
RIGHT-WING EXTREMIST: One who espouses a non-Marxist, anti-Liberty government, such as a
theocracy in which the religion and the State are one, or a Monarchy or dictatorship (one-man rule), in which there is no freedom of speech, no freedom of the Press, no freedom of religion, and no freedom of citizens to peacefully assemble and petition their government for a redress of grievances; and few other rights, if any.
HATE SPEECH: Speech which advocates the death, injury, criminalization, or rule (or domination) of those (individuals or nations) whom one disagrees with, or who are a different race, gender, or religion, just because an individual is of a different race, gender, or religion, or an individual or nation simply disagrees, particularly when such individuals or nations are not harmful to the rights or safety of the one doing the hating.
With the above definitions of the terms, here are some Recent EXAMPLES of Islamic Right-wing Extremist Hate Speech:
1) "Death to America!"
"Kill all those who criticize Muhammad or Islam!"
2) "Death to Israel"
3) "Death to all Khafurs (infidels, non-Muslims)!"
4) "Islam will dominate all other religions!"
5) "Islam will dominate and rule the world!"
6) "Freedom can go to Hell!"
7) "Kill all the Jews and drive Israel into the sea!"
9) "We demand Shari'a law for us in your country, and there will be trouble if we do not get it!"
10) "America is the Great Satan!"
11) "Death to the West!"
12) "If you do not let us build our Cordoba House Islamic Cultural Center with a Mosque near Gound Zero, there will be more terrorist attacks in America!"
13) The stomping, cutting up, and burning of the American Flag near Ground Zero of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, and the loud calling out of others to join them.
The above comment lists only 13 examples of Islamic right-wing extremist hate speech. There are many more. It is amazing that the Marxists are not screaming about it! It must be because the Marxists hate America and her Liberty just as much as the Islamic right-wing extremists do! We Classic Liberals, our nation, our Liberty, and our way of life are under attack from both the Marxists AND the Islamic right-wing extremists! Wake up, America, and GOD BLESS AMERICA!
My above comment lists only 13 examples of Islamic right-wing extremist hate speech. There are many more. It is amazing that the Marxists are not screaming about it! It must be because the Marxists hate America and her Liberty just as much as the Islamic right-wing extremists do! We Classic Liberals, our nation, our Liberty, and our way of life are under attack from both the Marxists AND the Islamic right-wing extremists! Wake up, America, and GOD BLESS AMERICA!
Those muslims who murder others in the name of their false
god are not extremists as you, and all of the main stream media
have claimed. These muslims are just following the teaching of the
Quran.
So-called hate speech is the worlds attempt to shut the mouths
of God's children. Why? Because the world loves evil.
You have missed my point. Over 90% of the Islamic clergy belongs to the Muslim Brotherhood. So do all serious Muslims. My estimate of the less than 10% of the Islamic clergy NOT belonging to the Muslim brotherhood is a generous one. The Muslim Brotherhood supports Jihad; and supports Hamas, Hezbollah, al-Qaida, and other terrorist organizations. They are extremists in the pure sense, just like the Marxists are. I believe that EVERY Mosque and EVERY Islamic Cultural Center in the United States should be very closely watched. Any Imam who preaches Jihad should immediately be arrested and prosecuted in Military Court for sedition, and if convicted, should be dealt with accordingly. That Mosque should be shut down, and any Muslim who causes unrest over it should be deported.
This woman is a typical Liberal. There is no way you can get through to these people’s little minds. They would love to shut up Conservative people like Palin, Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh and so many others that have some sense. There is just something missing with Liberal’s and nothing can help them. There is nothing Conservative about the man that did the shooting. If Liberals weren’t so easy going on people that do things like this, we would have laws to help prevent things like this happening. Why should people worry about what they do? They get a nice cozy place to stay and the tax payers work to keep them taken care of. They should all be put to hard labor and work to pay for what they have done. The Liberal’s attitude has been running this country down for a long time.
yes stop blaming the tea party for the shooting itb was lib lefts that did it your boy is in deep shit.
Does that mean that when the media says "get a shot of this" that they are endorsing killing everyone in the cameras view?
The senator did not specifically say anything about The Tea Party….only Palin – which this reporter appeared to try to insinuate Palin is to blame for this shooting, in part.
If the media and other liberals stop putting blinders on and ear plugs in their ears…they would realize that this shooter "read about Marxism and Hitler" — gee, who does that remind you of? Certainly not Palin or the Tea Party.
Another stupid LIBERAL will try and blame the TEA PARTY and SARA PALIN for a guy who, once you see what he believed in, had the SAME views as a LIBERAL. These morons try and blame the AMERICAN PARTY(Republicans) for everything and anything, to justify their sick, perverted views. Where were they when INNOCENT Americans were killed by ILLEGALS in, and out of this country? They are trying to destroy this nation, and hate when we foil their plans. 2011 has the REPUBLICANS in charge of the HOUSE, voted in by the AMERICAN people, who want Obamma and his henchmen/women to be stopped. Guess ALL these are "TEA PARTY" voters huh?
The HillBuzz website has a forum in which many deleted Leftist comments on Leftist websites are exposed to disprove the Left-stream Media propaganda that the TEA Party and other Patriots are to blame for Saturday's massacre in Tucson, Arizona. Here is the URL for the forum:
http://hillbuzz.org/2011/01/08/my-congresswoman-v…
Understand that HillBuzz is NOT a Left-wing website. It exposes Left-wing lies and coverups, and does a good job of it. Nearly all of the commenters seem to be Patriots.
Thanks for the information on the website. Typical liberal response to blame and promote hate through self-promoting sensationalism. What's the term – Never waste a crisis.
I can see that the by the method of interview, this was pick part 1 or 3 but whatever you do don't say what you really think. The media will do what they can to sell product but let’s face it the divisiveness of the political climate is a codependent relationship between politicians and the news. Being the deepest pocket of new affiliates are major networks the culpability lays with them and the positions. This story sad and distasteful is the result of the political climate and a sick person. It is not Tea Party, Berthers, or any other group who profess alternate strategy or responsibility in relationship to the last years Majority Party; I am surprised this was not Bushes fault. Maybe there was not enough thread on that to raise the same old distorted flag again.
John F. Kennedy was assassinated by a Communist. Robert Kennedy was assassinated by a Muslim. Martin Luther King was assassinated by a Nazi sympathizer and Nazi's were Socialists. For those with eyes it's abundantly clear who resorts to violence to achieve their political goals-the Left. What the Left has that the Right doesn't have is a vast Radical Left Wing Propaganda Machine in the "Mass Media" and Hollywood. What is playing out with this sad event is the Left dancing in the blood of innocents to gain political advantage, yet again! They truley have no concept of Right or Wrong.
Sirhan B. Sirhan, who assassinated Robert F. Kennedy, was a Palestinian Arab, but not a Muslim. He was raised as a Christian, but also allegedly dabbled in the occult. He never converted to Islam. Robert F. Kennedy's assassination was in retaliation for his support of Israel, and his Senate vote to give 50 fighter planes to Israel. Sirhan was also a Jew-hater.
Well the fix is in.The mad rush is on to blame something or someone other than the one who really did this. Just because these talking heads can't think for themselves doesn't mean that we can't. To me it doesn't matter what they, you , him, her put cross hairs on I will make my own mind up as to what action I will or will not take in regard to any issue that I feel it necessary to take action on. I have the ability to use critical creative thinking and make a decision based on my own judgement seperate and outside any influence from other parties. Not just that but it is my overwhelming belief that at least 98% of Americans have this ability also.
You can lead a liberal to logic but you can't make them think.
Your last sentence is the most accurate I have seen in months!!!!!
Let's not forget our favorite, Ed Shultz from MSNBC, and all the ranting, raving and the hate that has spewed from his large mouth. He seemes to be another deranged individual.
This little-known aspect to the Holocaust exposes the duplicity of the Vatican during the horrors of Hitler’s attempt to solve the “Jewish Problem.” For most of the last 1500 years, the popes have done everything they could to wipe out the Jews. Declaring them “Christ killers” and unfit to exist, they have harassed them into ghettos and inflamed mobs and civil governments into executing them.
Had the Vatican put Hitler in power and had assisted in the Nazi Genocide and mass-murder of the Jews, and planned to assist in his intent to perpetrate the same on the Yugoslav race, NO Croat or Slovene would be Catholic today. We would be Orthodox instead. Why did Hitler want to exterminate my race as well? We are a four-way genetic mix of Slavic, Iranic, Semitic, and a small amount of Mediterranean. Because of that, Hitler called us "half-Russian, part-Jew, part-Negro beasts which need to be exterminated."
Wlmitch: The Vatican is controlled by satan & they will use or sacrifice
anyone or any people to achieve their goals. At that time, Germany was
a Catholic nation. The truth is, the Vatican did place Hitler into power.
The Vatican are expert manipulators and liars.
You are too sure about this. Who can deliver you from your Luciferian darkness and bias you have against the Church founded by Christ whom you claim you follow.
Ex-Jesuit Priest Alberto Rivera was told in secret briefings that Hitler was secretly supported by the Vatican in his attempt to execute “a final solution to the Jewish problem.” Rivera explains the details in the Alberto series Crusaders Comic, The Godfathers. Further information is contained in Section V of The Secret History of the Jesuits by Edmond Paris. Both volumes are available from Chick Publications.
What appears on the surface as an act of mercy in saving these babies, was actually a subtle attack on the Jews. By raising them as subjects of the pope and never disclosing their heritage, their Jewishness was obliterated just as effectively as Hitler’s gas chambers.
Jack Chick is a KNOWN anti-Catholic bigot and conspiracy theorist. Alberto Rivera was born in 1935 and could not possibly have met with Hitler. He was a child living in Spain during World War II. Rivera did receive Seminary training, but there are no records of him ever having been ordained as a Catholic Priest. He died of colorectal cancer in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma in 1997. He is a known con man who has engaged in fraud, credit card theft, and writing bad checks. Rivera has no credibility. Stop being led astray by Jack Chick and his ilk. Talk to your minister and pray for guidance. If you are sincere and contrite, the Holy Spirit will guide you.
Does Jack Chick hate Catholics?
Quite the opposite. In the mid-1970's, when he first began to understand what Roman Catholicism really teaches, he knew it was unscriptural. He also knew that to speak out against it would be unpopular and hurt his publishing company.
After much prayer, he made the decision that, no matter what it cost him personally, he would publish the truth that Roman Catholicism is not Christian. He did it because he loves Catholics and wants them to be saved through faith in Jesus, not trusting in religious liturgy and sacraments. He paid a price for that decision in many ways, as priests and nuns entered Christian bookstores screaming and making a scene, demanding that the store owner not stock Chick tracts. Some "Christian" media have even refused to accept advertising from Chick Publications, fearing any "controversy" that might hurt their cash flow.
But God has been faithful (as He always is) and has protected Chick Publications over the years. Jack Chick has made it clear that if he had it to do over again, he wouldn't change a thing. The letters from so many Catholics who have read Chick's anti-Catholic material and have gotten saved carry one theme: "Thank you for loving us enough to tell us the truth!" Those precious people make it all worthwhile.
Chick lies! You are misled by the same Luciferian demon that possesses Mr. Chick. Do you know the entire movement of Jack Chick was launched by the Luciferians to misinform, confuse, tear apart Christians, and destroy Christianity? Just compare the similar tactics of Chick shared by the Luciferians at http://www.luciferianliberationfront.org/llf2.htm…!
I read two of the headings on that site: Independence Day or the "Rapture", and Jesus of Borg. It seems that Satan and his followers will stop at NOTHING to deceive as many as possible. "Going to Hell is not so bad!" Really?!? Satan must be REALLY desperate! The old adage "misery loves company" comes to mind. And look at all of the death and destruction that Satan has caused, beginning in the Garden of Eden! God confused the languages because men refused to go forth and multiply as God had commanded. They thought that they could build a tower all the way to Heaven. Satan is an expert in the use of projection. He accuses God of doing everything he himself does. That entire website is dark and foreboding. It is a true revelation of what we as Christians are truly up against. Keep in mind also that Marx, Engels, Alinsky, and Chomsky were ALL Satanists. It is no wonder why Marxists are so evil.
I read the text under two of headings on that site: Independence Day or the "Rapture", and Jesus of Borg. It seems that Satan and his followers will stop at NOTHING to deceive as many as possible. "Going to Hell is not so bad!" REALLY?!? Satan must be REALLY desperate! The old adage "misery loves company" comes to mind. And look at all of the death and destruction that Satan has caused, beginning in the Garden of Eden! God confused the languages because men refused to go forth and multiply as God had commanded. They thought that they could build a tower all the way to Heaven. Satan is an expert in the use of projection. He accuses God of doing everything he himself does. That entire website is dark and foreboding. It is a true revelation of what we as Christians are truly up against. Keep in mind also that Marx, Engels, Alinsky, and Chomsky were ALL Satanists. It is no wonder why Marxists are so evil.
Didn't Christianity consist of the Catholic Church for the first 1500 years?
No. While the Catholic Church was seeking to control the world through religion, true Christians were running for their lives from the Catholic holocaust that ran for centuries.
God has always had His people, faithful to Him and His Word. They had no part in the Roman Catholic Church. Through much of history, organized religion has hunted and slaughtered God's people. For an excellent overview of this, read the classic work, "The Trail of Blood."
Catholic means universal as in "the catholic feeding habits of the Northern Copperhead snake" from the Lone Star Field Guide to the Snakes of Eastern and Central North America for example. The Universal (Catholic) Christian Church was started by Jesus Christ himself. Saint Peter was the first Pope. Jesus said to Simon, "Thou shalt be called Cephas (Peter in English) the rock, and upon this rock I shall build my Church." Centuries later, Western and Central European kings and queens used the Catholic Faith as a weapon to enhance their own power, the same way in which English kings and queens used the Anglican Church as a weapon during the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries to enhance THEIR own power.
Is there a slight chance that the Roman Catholic "church"
is really NOT Christian?
THINK OF THE HORRIFYING CONSEQUENCES!
- If it is not… Then billions of people have been deceived.
- If it is not… Then the Ecumenical Movement is not of God.
- If it is not… Then the Roman Catholic Charismatic
Movement is not of God.
- If it is not… Then Roman Catholics are heading for a
spiritual disaster.
Prophet Raymond's version of Church history. Raymond, these things are truly pleasing to your itchy eyes and ears, but only if they were true!
He doesn't want to listen to universal truth, why listen to his falsehood that he delights so much in?
CNN is so warped in their reporting! The tea party is made up of true Americans who love our country and take no part in reference to Marxism and Communists leaders. If the people in the United States would love their country as much as the tea party participants, we would have a great nation. Why does CNN and other stations so willing to criticize Americans who love their country and want to fight to keep the principles upon which our founding fathers began our nation? These reporters want to stir up matters far beyond what is the truth. We need to put God first. "If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways,then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land." 2 Chronicles 7:14. Thank God for Congressmen/women and Senators who stand up for Christian beliefs!!
Look at and listen to Dick Turban (radical liberal with grumpy look), then look at and listen to Lamar Alexander using common sense and logical thinking, Turbin is just as bad as Candy Crowley and antaginostic.
Pope Demands World Government
In his Papal Encyclical Caritas in veritate (Charity in Truth) the Pope/Antichrist demands that a World Government be created (ruled by him).
Read the verses below and keep them in mind when you read the Encyclical Letter Caritas in Veritate, then decide what you think. Disturbing to say the least…
Revelation 13:16-18 KJV (16) And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: (17) And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. (18) Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
I just finished reading the entire Encyclical Letter Caritas in Veritate. My take on it is that Pope Benedict XVI understands that globalization IS indeed taking place, and he believes that there will inevitably be a one-world government. He believes that such a government must be regulated by law and respect the inalienable rights given to every human being by God our Creator. That is the exact antithesis of the purely secular world government that super-rich Marxists want to impose on the people of the world, in which the almighty State is supreme, God is denied, everyone is reduced to the lowest common denominator, and there is no freedom. Here is a link to Encyclical Letter Caritas in Veritate:
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/en…
You will need to read it in depth and not simply skim through it. The Pope is NOT demanding World Government, and is NOT demanding to be its ruler. That allegation is FALSE and slanderous!
Wlmitch.
Telling the truth is now called slanderous?
In reality, the pope is calling for a world government
so he can be the ruler. Hitler was placed into power
by the Vatican. The pope supports homosexuality
& lesbianism. I'm just trying to help you see the truth.
It is NOT the truth. And no, the Pope does not support homosexuality and lesbianism. The Catholic Church teaches that sodomy and masturbation are serious SINS. When Pope Pius XII spoke out against the evil which Hitler was doing, Hitler responded by angrily demanding, "How many legions does the POPE have?!?" Hitler then began herding the Catholic Clergy and the active Catholic Laity into death camps. BTW, Pope Benedict's Encyclical is available as a PDF file at
http://catholicplaces.org/DOC/caritas.pdf
and can be saved to disc in Adobe Reader 9. Also, I recommend that you go to the Catholic Answers website for assistance to learn the truth about the Catholic faith. Here is the link:
http://www.catholicanswers.com
There are Catholic scholars on that website who will answer any questions you may have.
Wlmitch:
Item 1). I've spent years learning the truth about Catholicism
and you want me to go to them for the "truth"???
Item 2). The Vatican wants homosexuals as priests, look at
all the child rapes committed by priests & covered up by the
Vatican (when ever they can).
Item 3). The Vatican has a very long history of sacrificing
his own followers to further his own plans for world domination.
Item 1). You spent years learning anti-Catholic propaganda from a playbook. You remind me of those who blame all of the world's ills on the Jews, or those who blame all of America's ills on the Blacks, or the Leftists who blame all of the world's ills on both Christians and Jews.
Item 2). The Catholic Church in North America and Western Europe mistakenly began ordaining some men with a homosexual sexual orientation as Priests during the 1960s to show "tolerance", in the hope that they would not engage in sodomy, and would keep their sexual orientation to themselves. HUGE MISTAKE! These Leftist homosexuals molested teenage boys to deliberately destroy the Catholic Church from within. Pope John Paul II cracked down on them. Pope Benedict XVI is also laicizing them. In the rest of the world, the Bishops and Cardinals do not ordain homosexuals to begin with.
Item 3). "His" own followers? "His" own plans for world domination? The Vatican does not sacrifice its own followers. Some individual Catholics throughout history have allowed themselves to be martyred for their faith, however. St. Stephen was the first martyr.
Wlmitch: 1). Do you work for the Catholic church?
2). Have you ever read a book by Dave Hunt called
"A Woman Who Rides the Beast"? This book gives a
complete history of the Catholic church. It tells which
popes were murdered by jealous husbands because
said pope was fooling around with a married woman.
The truth is, you have not read this book & never will.
1) No, I am not employed by the Catholic Church. I am a serious Catholic. So, if I defend my Faith, then I must work for the Catholic Church?
2) Be careful what you read by Dave Hunt. He also wrote a negative book about Calvanism (Baptists, Anabaptists) titled "What Love is This? Calvinism's Misrepresentation of God" and no, I have not read any of his books.
You may be not employed, but Mr. Raymond was employed, therefore, it occurred to him that whether you too may have been employed. So, why waste time with a hired disciple of the Luciferians, like Jack Chick
Whom are employed with? Such thoughts can only arise when you yourself are so. So, now things are plain now.
Luciferian truth, I see. You are too fearful of the real truth, then you may have change your opinions, shake yourself from the inertia, and undo all the damage you have done against the Church. It is too painful and costly, so don't make the mistake of knowing the full truth. It is comfortable to be ignorantly in the right, even though you may be wrong until hell wakes you up too late, better the momentary discomfort, Mr Raymond
God's word never mentions nuns, monks or popes.
This system, along with its statues, candles and
religious costumes, and created by the Roman
Catholic church to impress its followers. The
people love it, but only their leaders really
understand the religious phraseology and
psychology used to control their members. .
It only mentions Alter-Call, suits and coats, Bible thumping, advertisements, TV shows and touching the screen, laughing and rolling in the spirit, and most important of them all, the word of Jack Chick, which is most essentially needed to interpret the Word of God correctly in today's context.
The Dangers of Rome:
In the present economic crisis, world leaders are increasing the call for a world government. Pope Benedict XVI issued a new “encyclical,” or official letter to the world, calling for “reform of the United Nations” so that it would have “real teeth.”
It would be charged with disarmament, food security, protection of the environment, and regulation of migration. “For all this, there is urgent need for a true world political authority,” the pope states.*
More than one recent pope has pushed this idea, but today’s crises has political leaders joining the call. Over the last half century, the UN has been given increasing authority with peace-keeping duties and monitoring of nuclear programs.
World leaders are requesting that the World Trade Organization (WTO) be given new authority to regulate global financial institutions.
For Bible believers, these are just additional marks on the face of the clock of biblical prophecy. Jesus told us that after a period of prosperity, sin would increase and create chaos and fear in the beginning of the last days.
Another of the pope’s ideas is beginning to get some traction: that Jerusalem must be “internationalized.” A possible step toward that has been suggested by one of President Obama’s most influential think tanks, The Center for American Progress.
In a recent panel discussion on the problem of Jerusalem, the suggestion was made that both Israel and the Palestinians appoint an acceptable third party to administrate the city.
Obviously, such a “third party” would have to be acceptable not only to Israel and Islam, but also to the rest of the world. That rules out about everyone but the UN or possibly the pope.
The crises that are developing in the world fit neatly into the prophetic scenario laid out in the Bible: First, a time of prosperity, increase in knowledge and the gospel preached to all nations. At that point, the beginning of sorrows, chaos, fear, and world leaders scrambling to fix the problems.
Troubles increase until a world leader arises promising peace and harmony. But his brand of harmony requires that Christians and Jews be eliminated. The Chick tract, The Beast, and Crusader Comic the Four Horsemen, describe in detail the end-time events that we are facing. The primary message for soul winners is that the time is short and we need to redouble our efforts to reach the lost.
*See Caritas in Veritate, section 67.
And guess who the first Christians to be eliminated will be if the NWO takes over the world. Catholics! The Orthodox will be eliminated next. They will then see if the all of the Protestant denominations wither on the vine as they expect. If not, they too will be eliminated. The Jews will be the first non-Christians to be eliminated. Those Marxist NWO types are DEMONIC! They are PURE EVIL! Marx, Engels, Alinsky, and Chomsky were ALL Satanists. The Pope wants Jerusalem to be an international city in the SPIRITUAL sense only. Obama wants Jerusalem to be an international city POLITICALLY.
Catholics are not Christians.
Read God's word which is the King James Bible.
The King James Version of the Holy Bible was written by an English King who had a quarrel with the Catholic Church, NOT by the apostles, and NOT by Jews. I read the Catholic version of the Holy Bible which has, GUESS WHAT? both the Old Testament and the New Testament! The old Testament was written by Jews and includes the Book of Macabees; the King James Version does not. The New Testament was written by the Apostles. Both Testaments were written in Hebrew and then translated to Aramaic, then Greek, then Latin, and then to Old Church Slavonic. It has since been translated to well over 100 different languages. The Eastern Orthodox Christians read the same Bible that we Catholic Christians do.
There Are Two Kinds of Manuscripts:
Accurate Copies
These manuscripts represent the manuscripts from which the "Textus Receptus" or Received Text was taken.
They are the majority of Greek manuscripts which agree with each other and have been accepted by Bible believing Christians down through the centuries. It is from these manuscripts that the King James Bible was translated in 1611.
Corrupted Copies
These manuscripts represent the corrupted copies of the Bible, also known as the Alexandrian manuscripts. These manuscripts, many times, do not even agree with each other. The Vaticanus and Sinaiticus manuscripts are part of this group. These are the manuscripts on which Westcott and Hort and the modern versions rely so heavily.
There are 5,309 surviving Greek manuscripts that contain all or part of the New Testament. These manuscripts agree together 95% of the time. The other 5% account for the differences between the King James and the modern versions.
The modern versions had to use the Textus Receptus, since it contains the majority of the surviving Greek manuscripts. The problem is that, when the Textus Receptus disagreed with the Vaticanus or the Sinaiticus, they preferred these corrupted manuscripts over the Textus Receptus.
That accounts for the 5% corruption in the modern versions. Even these two manuscripts agree with the Textus Receptus much of the time. When they do not agree, it is because Marcion (120-160 AD) or Origin (184-254 AD) or whoever, corrupted them.
Now, the fact has been established that the modern versions are different than the King James Bible (see LET'S WEIGH THE EVIDENCE for numerous, verse by verse examples). But, we still need to answer the question: Why are they different?
There are at least 5,309 surviving Greek manuscripts which contain all or part of the New Testament. Plus, there are translations into different languages which date back to within 100 years of the disciples. For example, the Peshitta is a Syrian translation from the 2nd century.
These manuscripts agree with each other about 95% of the time. The problem is, how does one determine what is right in the 5% of the places where the manuscripts do not agree?
Argument One
(Modern versions) "The Bible is just like any other book. It is not liable to Satanic attack. In order to find out what the original copy probably said, you just find the oldest copies available and use them.
"We don't have the exact word of God now anyway, so a few disagreements will not matter."
Part 2.Argument Two
(King James Bible) "The Bible is not ‘just like any other book.' Satan hates it because it is the Word of God. Satan has been trying to destroy it ever since the Garden of Eden.
"However, God has preserved His Word for us. He preserved the Old Testament through the Levites as priests and He has preserved the New Testament through the body of believers through the witness of the Holy Spirit."
The vast majority of Greek manuscripts agree together. They have been passed down through the centuries by true Bible-believing Christians.
In 1516 Erasmus compiled, edited, and printed the Greek "Textus Receptus" (received text). This is the text that the Protestants of the Reformation knew to be the Word of God (inerrant and infallible). The King James Bible was translated from the "Textus Receptus."
The debate continues:
Part 3.Argument One
(Modern versions) The oldest surviving manuscripts must be the most reliable. Therefore, when determining what manuscripts to depend on, the Vaticanus (350 AD) and the Sinaiticus (about 350 AD) should be accepted as correct (even if 998 other manuscripts disagree with them).
Argument Two
(King James) The oldest manuscripts (the Vaticanus and Sinaiticus) are not reliable at all! But wait, the Vaticanus and Sinaiticus disagree with each other over 3,000 times in the gospels alone!
Facts About the Vaticanus
It was written on fine vellum (tanned animal skins) and remains in excellent condition. It was found in the Vatican Library in 1481 AD. In spite of being in excellent condition, it omits:
Genesis 1:1 through Genesis 46:28
Psalms 106-138
Matthew 16:2-3
The Pauline Pastoral Epistles
Hebrews 9:14-13:25
Revelation
These parts were probably left out on purpose.
Besides all that, in the gospels alone it leaves out 237 words, 452 clauses and 748 whole sentences, which hundreds of later copies agree together as having the same words in the same places, the same clauses in the same places and the same sentences in the same places.
The Vaticanus was available to the translators of the King James Bible, but they didn't use it because they knew it is unreliable. The Vaticanus also contains the Apocrypha.
Facts About the Sinaiticus
The Sinaiticus is a manuscript that was found in 1844 in a trash pile in St. Catherine's Monastery near Mt. Sinai, by a man named Mr. Tischendorf. It contains nearly all of the New Testament plus it adds the "Shepherd of Hermes" and the "Epistle of Barnabas" to the New Testament.
The Sinaiticus is extremely unreliable, proven by examining the manuscript itself. John Burgeon spent years examining every available manuscript of the New Testament. He writes about the Sinaiticus:
"On many occasions 10, 20, 30, 40 words are dropped through very carelessness.
Letters, words or even whole sentences are frequently written twice over, or begun and immediately canceled; while that gross blunder, whereby a clause is omitted because it happens to end in the same words as the clause preceding, occurs no less that 115 times in the New Testament."
That's not all!
On nearly every page of the manuscript there are corrections and revisions, done by 10 different people. Some of these corrections were made about the same time that it was copied, but most of them were made in the 6th or 7th century.
Phillip Mauro was a brilliant lawyer who was admitted to the bar of the Supreme Court in April 1892. He wrote a book called "Which Version" in the early 1900's. He writes concerning the Sinaiticus:
"From these facts, therefore, we deduce: first that the impurity of the Codex Sinaiticus, in every part of it, was fully recognized by those who were best acquainted with it, and that from the very beginning until the time when it was finally cast aside as worthless for any practical purpose."
The Vaticanus and Sinaiticus manuscripts are the oldest, but they are not the best manuscripts!!!
That's where the modern translators went wrong! They foolishly accepted the Vaticanus and Sinaiticus simply because they were old.
They did not attempt to find out why they were so vastly different from the Greek text that real Christians have known to be the infallible Word of God.
When the modern versions say in the footnotes, "Some of the oldest mss. do not contain vv. 9-20," or "This verse not found in the most ancient authorities," they are taking their information from the corrupt and unreliable Vaticanus and Sinaiticus manuscripts!
Don't fall for the "oldest are the best" line! The oldest are not the best! For example, the Vaticanus and Sinaiticus both leave out the last 12 verses of Mark, concerning the resurrection of Christ.
But, there is not one other manuscript, either uncial or cursive, that leave out this passage. There are 18 other uncial (capital letter) manuscripts that have the passage in and at least 600 cursives (small letter) manuscripts that all contain these verses.
The evidence is at least 618 to 2 against the Vaticanus and Sinaiticus. Yet, look in your modern version.
The New American Standard Bible puts all these verses (Mark 16:9-20) in brackets, saying that these verses probably were not in the original writings. The other versions use brackets or footnotes.
That's ridiculous!!! In a court of law, if you had 618 witnesses that saw something happen, and you had two witnesses that said they did not see it happen, would you accept the testimony of the 618 or the testimony of the 2?
You see, it is foolish for any translator to accept a manuscript simply because of age, without checking to find out where it came from and if it was reliable or not.
Why do the modern versions question the virgin birth of Christ, attack the doctrine of the deity of Christ, the infallibility of the Bible, the doctrine of salvation by faith and the Trinity?
ALL of these ARE in the Catholic version of the Holy Bible:
Genesis 1:1 through Genesis 46:28
Psalms 106-138
Matthew 16:2-3
The (13) Pauline Epistles
Hebrews 9:14-13:25
Revelation*
* In Catholic Bibles published before 1965, the Book of Revelation is called the Apocalypse.
Wlmitch:
1). You're trying to defend the works of satan & God will judge you
for such evil.
2). You're either lying or have some kind of learning disability.
3). You blew past my key points, which is common for Catholics.
I am not interested in reading any more of your long, bigoted, anti-Catholic rants, nor do I have the time. You are using me, a fellow American Patriot, as a scapegoat to make yourself look good. How dare you insinuate that I am a mentally retarded liar?!? And now, defending my Catholic Christian Faith is evil?!? This constitues HARASSMENT!! I do not post bigoted rants against your Faith, your denomination, or any other Christian denomination, so please stop posting them against mine!
Wlmitch, please don't throw pearls to chicks and dogs. Don't waste your time. A possessed cannot be convinced. Raymond is somewhat aware behind his mind about the truth, but too afraid of the truth. He can't afford it.
Thank you for defending me and standing up for our Catholic Christian Faith. I would not say that Raymond is possessed because I do not know. But I will say that he is grossly misinformed about our Faith. It never occurred to me that he may actually FEAR the Church, but you may very well be correct. If that IS so, then we should pray to God to help him overcome his fear, and also pray for his conversion. If he stops posting his hatred, then his trespasses will all be forgiven. If not, then I will stand up to him, and may even report some of his posts to Floyd (the site administrator).
Your reaction and anger shows, your strong aversion for any truth, you are truly demonized. You do not understand it until you come face to face with an exorcist.
Yes Catholics were founded by Christ, so they are not Christian. Protestantism founded by scandalous men are the only true Christians! Mr. Raymond is too wise.
Yeah, God himself appeared to prophet Raymond and gave him this specific revelation.
If you want to blame someone, blame every Liberal Democrat voter, who elected every Liberal Democrate President, who appointed every Liberal Democrate Activist Judge, who was cofirmed by every Liberal Democrat Representative, who invited God and His Son out of our schools in 1962; and consequently out of our homes and our Nation. And, the only thing that will keep our Nation from decending into Hell, would be for all of us to get on our knees and implore God and His Son to please return to our Nation.
"We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions."
-Ronald Reagan
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The term, "priest," was taken from the Jewish
religion, along with the alter, incense, ect.
(Hebrews 8:4).
Look at what the Popes have claimed:
- Pope Innocent III: He (the pope) judges all
and is judged by no one.
- Pope Boniface VIII: We declare, assert, define
and pronounce: To be subject to the Roman
Pontiff is to every human creature altogether
necessary for salvation.
- Pope Leo XIII: We hold upon this earth the
place of God Almighty.
LET'S SEE WHAT GOD HAS TO SAY ABOUT A
MAN WHO CALLS HIMSELF GOD.
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2:3,4.
Pope Innocent III: You have deliberately taken his words out of context. Innocent was saying that GOD judges all, and is judged by no one, NOT the Pope. Had he been talking about himself, he would have said, "I judge all, and am judged by no one," which he did NOT say.
Pope Boniface VIII: He was never canonized after his death. He basically said the same thing about the Catholic Faith that many Christian Fundamentalists say about their own faith today. He never said Ex-Cathedral, however, which means that it is not an official teaching of the Catholic Church. There is NO official Catholic Church teaching that states that you will burn in Hell if you are not Catholic. Who burns in Hell and who goes to Heaven is for God to decide. I have HEARD Priests REBUKE Parishoners for claiming that all non-Catholics will burn in Hell.
Pope Leo XIII: He was stating the Catholic belief that the Church as a Christian Body is God's Kingdom on Earth and that the Pope is Christ's Vicar on Earth in a line of succession from St. Peter. In other words, the first SERVANT of Christ on Earth. No Pope has EVER claimed to be God Himself. A man who calls himself God is blaspheming Him. If you are accusing the Popes of claiming that they are God, then you are either grossly misinformed, or you are lying.
I spoke the truth & you have spoken lies.
A simple and inetlilgnet point, well made. Thanks!